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Post by sunshine on Jan 4, 2009 1:48:13 GMT -5
Just wondering.
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Post by skyline on Jan 4, 2009 8:01:49 GMT -5
What's yours?
I'm going to look for a proper enneagram test that's short enough ;D
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Post by kamangir on Jan 4, 2009 15:20:28 GMT -5
I am a 4w3 so/sx/sp. For the longest time, I thought I was 2w3.
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Post by sunshine on Jan 5, 2009 2:30:25 GMT -5
What's yours? I'm going to look for a proper enneagram test that's short enough ;D I'm a 4 with probably a 5 wing. Sx varient. Um you could try similarminds.com...I used one of their tests. |
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Post by wolfy on Jan 5, 2009 9:00:42 GMT -5
I'm 9w8
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Post by sarah on Jan 6, 2009 11:05:45 GMT -5
I'm definitely a type 4, with possibly a 3 wing. Re enneagram types -- how do you view them? Do you see the descriptions as mostly being desirable, or is well-roundedness more a matter of transcending your natural fears and limitations? A close friend of mine thinks some ennea-types are cool and others are boring and she was dismayed to realize that she might be a certain type she's always thought was boring. I don't get that. Isn't the enneagram supposed to be about your basic drives and needs that are crippling you and preventing you from feeling like a whole person? Just wondering.  |
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Post by sarah on Jan 6, 2009 11:09:00 GMT -5
I also wanted to add that this is one reason I find the enneagram sometimes more helpful than MBTI stuff -- you realize that everybody's in the same boat as far as needing to develop to healthy levels, and that it's more about transcending limitations than living up to a "cool" description.
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Post by kamangir on Jan 6, 2009 23:21:13 GMT -5
IDK, it is too hard to fathom.
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Post by skyline on Jan 7, 2009 12:33:55 GMT -5
I like sarah's last reply. I also struggled with thoughts like "I hope this test will not be unpleasant and too confronting , or something.." I've had multiple results on several tests, lol, but the last one said 2w3 ... Also it seems 9 often occurs at the top as well as a bit of 7 which kind of makes sense to me, currently. Maybe I shall know more later ;D after taken some other tests ..   Maybe one of you guys has an opinion you'd like to share about a certain enneagram type? For instance I find 8 to be just a little intimidating |
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Post by kamangir on Jan 7, 2009 18:00:25 GMT -5
This is a very interesting story to be honest. I have always got a 2w3 on enneagram tests, as I said earlier. I always identified with the "I love to help people" role, which is like a 2, is it not? But then around Christmas, I was feeling pretty vindictive and generally sucky. Someone suggested that I would be 4w3 instead of 2w3. I took a random enneagram test and I got 4w3. I always try to be very honest with these tests, so it wasn't like I was "trying" to get 4w3. I took the eclecticenergies test last night, while being extremely honest with myself, I got 2w3 again.  |
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Post by sunshine on Jan 8, 2009 1:47:41 GMT -5
I also wanted to add that this is one reason I find the enneagram sometimes more helpful than MBTI stuff -- you realize that everybody's in the same boat as far as needing to develop to healthy levels, and that it's more about transcending limitations than living up to a "cool" description. Yeah. Enneagram has definitely helped me. |
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Post by sunshine on Jan 8, 2009 1:51:03 GMT -5
I'm definitely a type 4, with possibly a 3 wing. Re enneagram types -- how do you view them? Do you see the descriptions as mostly being desirable, or is well-roundedness more a matter of transcending your natural fears and limitations? A close friend of mine thinks some ennea-types are cool and others are boring and she was dismayed to realize that she might be a certain type she's always thought was boring. I don't get that. Isn't the enneagram supposed to be about your basic drives and needs that are crippling you and preventing you from feeling like a whole person? Just wondering. Ummm in the beginning when I didn't understand everything about the enneagram I viewed it the way your friend did and was dismayed, actually, to find out I was a four. I was in denial for a couple of weeks. But now to be honest I take pride in it. I love being a 4. I wouldn't have it any other way. And now I view the enneagram just how you described it above - it's about your basic drives and needs and what is crippling you and preventing you from feeling like a whole person. |
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Post by sunshine on Jan 8, 2009 1:53:09 GMT -5
This is a very interesting story to be honest. I have always got a 2w3 on enneagram tests, as I said earlier. I always identified with the "I love to help people" role, which is like a 2, is it not? But then around Christmas, I was feeling pretty vindictive and generally sucky. Someone suggested that I would be 4w3 instead of 2w3. I took a random enneagram test and I got 4w3. I always try to be very honest with these tests, so it wasn't like I was "trying" to get 4w3. I took the eclecticenergies test last night, while being extremely honest with myself, I got 2w3 again. Pretend that there is absolutely nothing unique about you. How does that make you feel? |
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Post by kamangir on Jan 8, 2009 20:38:59 GMT -5
This is a very interesting story to be honest. I have always got a 2w3 on enneagram tests, as I said earlier. I always identified with the "I love to help people" role, which is like a 2, is it not? But then around Christmas, I was feeling pretty vindictive and generally sucky. Someone suggested that I would be 4w3 instead of 2w3. I took a random enneagram test and I got 4w3. I always try to be very honest with these tests, so it wasn't like I was "trying" to get 4w3. I took the eclecticenergies test last night, while being extremely honest with myself, I got 2w3 again. Pretend that there is absolutely nothing unique about you. How does that make you feel? That makes me kinda sad. My avant-garde-ness is what makes me happy. |
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Post by sarah on Jan 13, 2009 9:28:04 GMT -5
I'm definitely a type 4, with possibly a 3 wing. Re enneagram types -- how do you view them? Do you see the descriptions as mostly being desirable, or is well-roundedness more a matter of transcending your natural fears and limitations? A close friend of mine thinks some ennea-types are cool and others are boring and she was dismayed to realize that she might be a certain type she's always thought was boring. I don't get that. Isn't the enneagram supposed to be about your basic drives and needs that are crippling you and preventing you from feeling like a whole person? Just wondering. Ummm in the beginning when I didn't understand everything about the enneagram I viewed it the way your friend did and was dismayed, actually, to find out I was a four. I was in denial for a couple of weeks. But now to be honest I take pride in it. I love being a 4. I wouldn't have it any other way. And now I view the enneagram just how you described it above - it's about your basic drives and needs and what is crippling you and preventing you from feeling like a whole person. Well, maybe what you feel pride in isn't the enneatype so much as it is that you simply are creative, thoughful, sensitive, expressive, unique, etc., and you certainly don't need to feel bad about having those traits. But there's more... When I first read the same book on enneatypes that my INFP friend read, I thought the author was biased in favor of some types, and less descriptive about others, which was why I figured she reacted the way she did. I do understand how some types look more glamorous simply because descriptions of them are more colorful. But it all depends on the way the description is worded. There are some descriptions of the type 4 that are basically nothing but a list of positive things to feel proud about -- uniqueness, creativity, sensitivity, etc. And there are others that get to the heart of what is holding 4s back from actually being the creative sensitive person they could be, as opposed to just creating a distinctive persona. The problem comes when it's hard to accept mediocrity in yourself. The more a type 4's self-image is based on being extra-ordinary, the less they can accept anything they do that is creative that isn't also extraordinary. And then, instead of actually being creative to the best of her ability, the type 4 spends her time fantasizing about what she "should" be able to do, given her unique and special personality and all, or what she would like to do someday, and the actual creative projects tend to fall by the wayside. Fantasizing about living a truly unique, creative lifestyle and having an appealing personality is the trap of type 4, because it's kind of hard to convince yourself that you're living up to your potential if you set the bar too high for yourself and are constantly comparing your talents with that of others who are at the top of their profession. And then it's easy to feel envious of anyone around you who seems to have what you feel (or fear) you lack. (And then it can be tempting to give up on your attempts at being creative and just fall back on developoing an outward image that looks that way to others. Some 4s can even get to the point where they avoid people and just live more or less in their imagination, because they despair about ever measuring up to their fantasies about what they "should" be doing or "could" be doing.) From what I understand, when 4s know and accept they can get self-absorbed and choose not to behave in ways that feed their self-absorbtion -- by actually being whatever they say they care about rather than worrying about their outward image -- then they stay healthy. So instead of daydreaming about possiblities or comparing themselves to others, actually doing what they say they love, even if the results aren't all that impressive is a healthy way out of the type 4 trap. I dunno -- I guess you could make a case that this particular enneatype is more glamorous simply because it tends to involve self-awareness and some sort of creative artistic expression, but you could be an artist and be any one of the enneatypes. (Wasn't Pablo Picasso more or less a typical type 8?) ;D Sarah |
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